Q & A: Master of Many

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CFO Studio Magazine, Fall 2011


Jonathan Alpert reflects on CFOs in a private equity world

Interview by Andrew Zezas
JONATHAN ALPERT is the former CFO of Beefeaters, Inc. (dba Petrapport), world Gourmet Marketing LLC (dba sensible Portions), and Apple & eve LLC, as well as, his having led JA & Associates. He is a member of the board of directors of the New Jersey chapter of Financial Executives International (FEI) and is involved in other finance executive and business organizations. Alpert recently appeared in a CFO studio interview hosted by Andrew Zezas.

What’s going on with private equity?

Jonathan Alpert: there’s an enormous amount of activity that started late last year and has

continued on to this year. After 2008-2009, when these companies raised billions of dollars and then couldn’t and wouldn’t invest them, activities picked up enormously. They’re buying companies, selling companies, and competing against strategic buyers; and the market has picked up enormously.

 

Are there any sectors that are particularly hotter than others?

The obvious sector is technology and the internet; we all read every day about Facebook, Myspace, Xanga, and the little technology companies—everyone is playing there. But in consumer products, there has always been activity. There was activity in 2008-2009. It was a bit more difficult, but there was activity there; that has picked up, and there are lots of transactions. There is a lot of selling, a lot of buying. Private equity firms have kept their portfolios on the sidelines. They are now selling and going after new companies; there’s a great deal of activity.

That’s exciting because we always hear about tech bubbles doing this, but you’ve said that consistently, even through the down economy, consumer products are being bought and sold.

Absolutely.

 

Let’s stay in that vein and focus on mid-cap companies, publicly-held, privately-held, entrepreneurial-owned companies, and private equity-owned companies. Operationally and strategically, how are they different today on a company level?

On a company level, entrepreneurial and mid-cap, privately-owned companies all operate with small teams, and are cross-functional, trying to drive growth. The publicly-owned company has a broader time horizon—they can afford to wait next year. A private equity company is on a short lease. They have a three-to-five-year time horizon. They have narrowly focused finance objectives. They’ve got potential debt, covenants, and restrictions. They’re racing down the road, but it’s a lot narrower for private companies. A public company has financial objectives and the outside world looking at them. That’s a whole unique spotlight, and it takes the focus off different things and keeps the company driving, but it’s driving toward the bottom line.

 

But at the end of the tunnel, at the end of the road, the final objective may not necessarily be as well defined as for a private equity company.

 

Let’s talk about the role of the CFO. You’ve got three companies that run differently. I’ve got to believe the skills required and the expertise and role of CFO in each of those verticals is vastly different.

Absolutely. Let’s take the role of the CFO in public companies—that’s not the easiest job, but it’s the easiest to describe. A public company finance team has got reporting requirements, SEC requirements, heavy budget requirements, and accounting functions. Therefore, the CFO is much more focused on the financial function than the whole body, the whole enterprise. In a mid-cap company or a private entrepreneurial company, the CFO has to be a jack-of-all-trades, a master of many.

 

A master of many?

The CFO has to rely on his own network to supplement his own team and the company team because he’s operating in a small environment, and it’s very much a close team environment. The finance guy has got to work with sales, marketing, operations, logistics, and human resources. He’s working with a team, building a team, and working on bringing a company to the next level. There’s a financial component to all the sales decisions and marketing decisions, and the finance guy has to be proactive there, not only saying, “This is what we can afford to do” or “No, you can’t do that.” He’s working with his team on ways to do whatever it is within the company’s financial constraints. He has to have his fingers in every piece of the pie.

 

It sounds like in the privately-held and the private equity held companies, the finance executive is so diverse that he or she is probably like a COO rather than a publicly held CFO. The focus is much narrower and probably not as exciting.

Definitely.

 

You’ve always demonstrated the belief that finance and marketing should be aligned. Help me understand how that all works.

At the end of the day, revenue is the growth driver. The finance guy is responsible for making sure it’s profitable revenue, but at the end of the day it’s revenue. And how do you gain revenue? The guys on the frontline are your sales team and your marketing team. The finance guy has got to support that team. He’s got to be a player in there; he’s got to understand it. I was fortunate in my career to move from

finance to marketing. And I went out on the road with my sales guys and presented marketing and sales plans to liquor salesmen at 8 o’clock in the morning in a little room in a warehouse in Memphis, Tennessee. Once you’ve done that, you know what your guys are doing on the frontline, and that makes you sensitive to helping them seize opportunities: “say ‘yes,’ and say ‘yes’ this way.” Also, you need to keep them within the focus and the guidelines of the company, but make them look like the heroes they need to be in order to drive the bottom line and grow the company.

 

I’ve heard you use an analogy about skeet shooting and sales and finance.

In an environment, a CFO is, in a lot of ways, like the armor of the company. In skeet shooting, you’ve got your sales, marketing, and CEO out there with the shotguns and the rifles, taking aim at the targets. You’ve got someone there loading the weapons, selecting the proper ammunition. You’ve got another team player shooting the disc, and that group has got to function as a coordinated team so when the disc goes up, everybody’s tracking that disc and the rifle is going to discharge, and you’re going to hit the target. Then you move on, and you’re ready for the next opportunity. It’s a key role, but the CFO has got to know how to shoot the gun. He’s got to know what his team is thinking. He’s got to feed them the information and ammunition needed to hit that target.

 

So the salesman and the CEO are the shooters. And the CFO is what you called the armor, or the person who is loading the gun with the right tools and the right ammunition.

Precisely.

 

What should a CFO be thinking about and doing on behalf of his or her company, so the company can achieve success?

The core financial function or the core reporting is information. Information is power. Information is only power if you get it in the hands of the user. If the finance guy is a full member of all the other aspects of the enterprise and is a respected member, that means he’s earned his way up on those teams. He’s feeding them information, and he’s seizing opportunities.

 

He’s an active participant.

The CFO is helping to drive sales and making sure those sales are profitable. He’s putting the ammunition on the frontline. He’s in the trenches with his troops ensuring the informational flow; and in between the investors and the operational team—that’s how the CFO is going to be successful. The CFO has to be a full member of the team and drive the growth and the profitability that the team needs. He has to be a team player.


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The Role of a CFO

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A strong financial foundation is of critical importance for either a growing or a struggling business. Every successful company needs an active CFO. During an economic crisis, with positive cash flow more difficult to obtain, a CFO needs to put himself even more in the center of the business strategy.

In today’s world, most CEOs expect that their CFO gets beyond offering input, but instead gets involved in every key decision, is proactive in challenging the business strategy; and, importantly, must display a forward- and outward-looking attitude instead of offering backward and inward-looking views, like many finance professionals are used to doing.

While strategy is important, a core responsibility of the CFO remains ensuring that the financial version of the truth is heard and understood. This often results in having to find ways to trim expectations in a manner that does not bring the business to a halt, and not being the one who simply says no all the time.

—Gunther Mertens

CFO at a Glance:

How do you hope your colleagues describe you?

Gunther Mertens: Principled, pragmatic, collaborative.


What are you reading right now?

Aftershock: The Next Economy and America’s Future, by Robert B.Reich.


What are your hobbies?

Traveling and getting to know new places.


If you weren’t a successful CFO, what type of career might you have pursued?

Private equity, mergers, and acquisitions.


What’s the worst and best part of being a CFO?

The best part of being a CFO is that you have the best positioned function within a company to understand how the business is really doing. In addition to understanding the numbers, you are able to help with the strategic decisions. I see not really a bad side to being a CFO other than perhaps when things go bad the CFO is often blamed.
What are your plans for retirement?

I have not really given it a lot of thought yet. As retirement—probably it will be another 25 years before I get there. If pressed for an answer, I would say I want to work hard until retirement and retire to a vacation home in the Caribbean.


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Finance Executives Discuss and Worry About the Future

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CFOs have a highly focused perspective on the business world. They should…they’re no longer just focused merely on corporate finance, and haven’t been for quite some time!

I recently had the pleasure of attending a meeting of fifteen finance executives from various industries, both public and private companies.  This particular group of finance executives was brought together for a peer-to-peer discussion about issues of interest to them and to their companies. They shared their ideas on a series of important and timely matters, financial and operational, including the economy, employee hiring, financial executive careers, healthcare reform, and more.

Each CFO spoke openly and confidently about what he or she saw as being of critical importance. Some interesting discussions ensued.  A brief synopsis of some of those discussions follows:

  • Availability of Resources: Given layoffs and job cuts over the last two years, resources are slim, and those that exist are fully committed.  Many companies find their employees doing a lot more with a lot less.  Of course, productivity has soared.  But, it is not expected to last, as the labor market continues to fatigue.  With aggressive hiring not yet in full swing, companies operating with fewer internal employees are wondering how they’ll be able to sustain productivity levels and jump start growth without the availability of additional resources, especially as the economic recovery begins to gain traction.
  • Ability to Motivate the Workforce: In light of the lack of availability of resources and the overdrive-like work pace requested of remaining employees by their employers, CFOs are struggling to continually and effectively motivate employees.  Given the incorrect stereotype that CFOs are merely numbers driven, I found this comment to be very interesting.  Financial executives recognize the importance, and the special challenges, of motivating their employees as a means of sustaining productivity and profitability.  Currently, many CFOs are experiencing challenges in accomplishing this important task on a regular basis, given other current economic obstacles.
  • Ability to Secure Specialized Employees:  One CFO stated that his company was hiring at a record high rate (A shining star in the vast darkness!), and that he was concerned about his company’s ability to continually secure the very specialized high caliber technical employees they sought.  I’m not certain that this is reflective of the greater economy, but found it interesting.  As more companies seek to increase hiring, will they experience challenges in finding the best qualified people?
  • Converting from Private to Public Ownership:  Another financial executive, whose firm had recently been acquired by a publicly-held company with global exposure, commented on the cultural and very real operating challenges associated with having been a privately-held company for over 125 years. Again, this may not necessarily be occurring at a lot of other companies in the current environment, but it and some of the other matters addressed at this meeting speak to the unique experiences at many companies.
  • Financing: Multiple comments were made about the challenges experienced by companies seeking to secure financing on suitable terms to support current operations and growth.
  • Timing Growth Plans Against Economic Realities:  One CFO expressed concern over spending cash too quickly to support what may be overly optimistic growth expectations on the part of the company’s Board of Directors. Additional insight into this topic and guidance as to how companies can effectively plan growth may be found in an article, entitled “Ready, Set, Grow?” which appeared in the May 2010 edition of CFO Magazine.
  • Foreign Currency and Treasury Management: Given the globalization of many companies, and in light of recent economic struggles of some European countries, some CFOs are finding it challenging to effectively and profitably manage foreign currency and treasury matters.  The April 2010 edition of CFO Magazine contains a great article, entitled “Painful Conversions”, about how EXL, a business process outsourcing company, learned the hard way, about how to protect itself after getting hit with a $9 million foreign exchange loss.
  • Managing a Company Sale and Bad Press:  One CFO addressed the particular ups and downs of having managed the sale of a large company, while simultaneously managing negative press resulting from challenges associated with a high-profile project with which the company was associated. The key point was that the company was not involved in any of the negative events, but because of its involvement with that particular project, the necessity to manage the associated negative public relations weighed heavily on the company’s sale to investors.
  • Fear of Inflation: Almost all attendees expressed concern about the negative consequences associated with possible inflation occurring in the next twelve months.
  • Growing Their Way Out Of the Economy:  A financial executive commented on what he believed would be a fruitless attempt by certain large multi-national telecom equipment manufacturers to grow their way out of the bad economy, and the difficulty those companies are experiencing in making such an attempt.
  • Healthcare Reform:  This group of CFOs wee adamant about their dissatisfaction with healthcare reform legislation, commenting about the high costs and unnecessary burdens placed on employers.
  • State and Federal Taxes: The majority of the finance executives at this meeting were uncertain  over possible legislation that would negatively impact their companies and individuals regarding state and federal taxes.
  • IPO Planning: Some CFOs expressed challenges in planning an IPO, given current market uncertainties.
  • Project Workers: One CFO commented on having realized the occurrence of a major change in employment trends, with project workers being plentiful and surprisingly available at what he phrased as very inexpensive rates.

While the above may come to no surprise to some, it does clearly suggest that CFOs are actively watching current and future trends.  Finance executives, very often their companies’ senior strategists, are at the forefront of planning and executing their companies’ success.

 

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